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Only vs. a candidate like Hillary Clinton could Trump have a chance of becoming POTUS

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List of "celebrities" that said they will leave America if Trump is elected:  

  • Lena Dunham
  • Barbra Streisand 
  • Samuel L. Jackson
  • Miley Cyrus, Cher
  • Jon Stewart, Raven Symone
  • Natasha Lyonne
  • Omari Hardwick
  • Spike Lee
  • Chloë Sevigny
  • Eddie Griffin
  • George Lopez
  • Al Sharpton
  • Neve Campbell
  • Rosie O'Donnell
  • Whoopi Goldberg
  • Chelsea Handler

 

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Where are they going to go?  

Besides, barring a massive email leak with criminal evidence, Hillary is going to win in a landslide. 

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5 hours ago, Wolphard said:

Probably Canada. It's much better than the US, and the people there are a lot nicer.

You can't just walk over and become a Canadian, from what I understand there are some hoops to jump through.  And there are some nice folks here in 'Merica.

 

4 hours ago, Aurian said:

This is revenge for us giving you Bieber, isn't it? 

If everyone on that list moves there we can probably call it even.

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We are expected to believe she was "overheated" on an 80 degree day.  After she nearly fainted, she went to Chelsea's apartment.

First it was allergies, now its pneumonia.

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8 hours ago, Wolphard said:

Haha yeah. Not too concerned with privacy laws now are we? :D #doublestandard

Its a little different than a normal person, she's running for president. #DontGetMyPoliticsFromTwitter

Clinton’s cover story for her pneumonia diagnosis further proves her first instinct is to lie

By the way, I don't believe for a second she has pneumonia.  #FirstInstinctIsToLie:D

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lol pneumonia.  They are insulting our intelligence and spewing Clinton campaign talking points.  

Her health has nothing to do with Trump, but it's an easy distraction.  

Thought they were re-enacting a scene from 'Weekend at Bernies'

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Neither of them are trustworthy.   Approximately 70% of people polled don't trust Hillary.  Medical records are suddenly a privacy issue now, but everyone jumped on John McCain when he was running to release his records because they thought he was too old.  

 

 

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3 hours ago, Wolphard said:

Uhm, no it's not. The privacy laws apply to all citizens (all people on your soil for that matter), which includes presidential candidates. Now, if you do not want to vote for a person because they don't let you peek into their medical records, that's ofcourse your perogative. But then it seems you stepped many miles away from the "liberté, egalité, fraternité" motto. 

What if she has terminal lung cancer?  Is that not relevant?  Should we not be informed of that before November?  Or is that privacy?

Sorry, but general health is a fundamental qualification and requirement of the job.  Especially when we are talking about commander in chief.

3 hours ago, Wolphard said:

You are also quite funny. According to Politifact, mr. Trump has turned lying into a form of art: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

In comparison, Hillary's: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

In what part of my statement concerning Hillary's health did I say anything about Trump?  I thought we were talking about Hillary.  

So your only response to a discussion about Hillary's health and her own campaign giving several different stories about her health is to quote a Liberally biased website to say Hillary doesn't lie as much as Trump?  Really?

Try to leave Trump out of this for a minute ... Do you honestly believe Hillary and what her campaign is saying about her health?  Do you really believe that she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday?  Only to have the campaign on Saturday say it was allergies?  Only to change their story on Sunday to say she had pneumonia?  You honestly believe that and don't question it at all?  And do you really think it isn't any of our business to know why a presidential candidate would have done a face plant if not for others helping out?  You don't think its very odd that after nearly passing out, or getting dizzy or whatever happened, that she decided not to go to a hospital?  But instead went to her daughters apartment, then cancelled all events for the next few days?

Have you had, or been around anyone with pneumonia?  Is her behavior at all consistent with someone that has pneumonia?

Do you not question any of this?  Or do you really think this is none of our business?

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On 9/3/2016 at 0:18 AM, Wolphard said:

Still searching!

Hint: take a look at a college town. Especially in the LGS's. If you're anywhere near Champaign, IL, take a look at Titan Games. 

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56 minutes ago, Dunnar said:

What if she has terminal lung cancer?  Is that not relevant?  Should we not be informed of that before November?  Or is that privacy?

Sorry, but general health is a fundamental qualification and requirement of the job.  Especially when we are talking about commander in chief.

In what part of my statement concerning Hillary's health did I say anything about Trump?  I thought we were talking about Hillary.  

So your only response to a discussion about Hillary's health and her own campaign giving several different stories about her health is to quote a Liberally biased website to say Hillary doesn't lie as much as Trump?  Really?

Try to leave Trump out of this for a minute ... Do you honestly believe Hillary and what her campaign is saying about her health?  Do you really believe that she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday?  Only to have the campaign on Saturday say it was allergies?  Only to change their story on Sunday to say she had pneumonia?  You honestly believe that and don't question it at all?  And do you really think it isn't any of our business to know why a presidential candidate would have done a face plant if not for others helping out?  You don't think its very odd that after nearly passing out, or getting dizzy or whatever happened, that she decided not to go to a hospital?  But instead went to her daughters apartment, then cancelled all events for the next few days?

Have you had, or been around anyone with pneumonia?  Is her behavior at all consistent with someone that has pneumonia?

Do you not question any of this?  Or do you really think this is none of our business?

If she wants to really appeal to Bernie and other left-wing supporters, transparency is the only real way to go. Emails, health, anything. 

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29 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Not many people like either, but the hate the other, so they vote for the one they hate less. This is just terrible. 

I think that is the one thing everyone can agree on ... they both suck.

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23 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

If she wants to really appeal to Bernie and other left-wing supporters, transparency is the only real way to go. Emails, health, anything. 

She's not a fan of transparency... or honesty.   Emails might be a touchy subject for her :D

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I don't want to be a socialist.  Not voting for Clinton.  End of story for me. 

Trump is the anti establishment.  I am voting for him.

Every politician lies, cheats, is corrupt, yada yada.  I want the system to break, because I believe that's the only way things start to get fixed.

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4 hours ago, Jag said:

I don't want to be a socialist.  Not voting for Clinton.  End of story for me. 

Trump is the anti establishment.  I am voting for him.

Every politician lies, cheats, is corrupt, yada yada.  I want the system to break, because I believe that's the only way things start to get fixed.

I can fully understand this, but how in the hell is Clinton anything like a socialist? She's corporatist as can be. 

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20 hours ago, Wolphard said:

Wee! Ok, here we go.

Let's begin with the playing the 'bias' card. Whenever people (you in this case) read/hear something they don't like, it's because "mainstream media is biased"... or worse "lie to us." That kind of tinfoil-hat-thinking is a nuisance and is growing into something quite dangerous. Instead of the real media, a growing number of people are getting their backgroundstories from all sorts of weird blogs and 'news sites'.

Whether or not it's relevant is besides the point. Its private, and none of your business. Really not that hard a concept. I suppose it's a moot point as she will probably choose to release her file soon, just like she did with her 40 years worth of tax returns. (How many did Trump release again?) And I'm sure there will then be folks claiming her dossier is falsified, just like Obama's birth certificate.

@Lasraik then. I remember John McCain's age being an issue 8 years ago. I'd given the same answer then, it's none of your business. He could have died during his presidency, so can Clinton & Trump. That's what the vice presidents are for right? Roosevelt died, and Truman did alright I think, and I know for a fact that Johnson did a fine job after Kennedy died.

Why the question about pneumonia @Dunnar? Ofcourse I've been around people with that disease, haven't you? Haven't had it myself thankfully, just a bad case of bronchitis. 

Americans' Trust in Media at an all time low  Especially after the DNC email leaks we learned that a few mainstream media outlets were attack dogs for the Clinton campaign and spread her talking points.  There's a bias.  

As far as health records go, I mentioned McCain because there's a double standard.  The same people yelling and saying it's none of your business were (mostly) the same people complaining that John McCain could be dead soon so we have to know his medical history.  If she doesn't release health records then it will look like she's hiding something and will lose voter confidence even more.  It matters to voters, especially after her collapse last week.  After recovering in her daughters apartment she took a stroll outside and didn't look like someone suffering from walking pneumonia.  

Trump is a despicable human being so I won't defend him.  

@Jag Clinton definitely isn't a socialist.  The socialist (Bernie) was robbed by the Clinton campaign and the DNC.  

 

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Despite what you hear in the media or have been convinced over the years, there are more than two candidates running for presidential office.

Gary "What's Aleppo?" Johnson, anyone?

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