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Do you care about shuffle feel?

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During card sleeve reviews I hear a lot about shuffle feel.  Do you care about shuffle feel?  Does it matter to you or come into consideration when you're buying sleeves?

I'm more concerned with the sleeves keeping my cards in good condition and being durable, I don't really care about shuffle feel all that much.

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I do. I tend to do the mash shuffle with sleeves, but certain Ultra Pro sleeves (with cool art) had hard edges, so you can't mash them together without splitting the cards... I don't know why they switched to that, but it made it annoying. I can't really do the normal riffle shuffle with them,

 

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It's one of those things that I can tolerate, but I would prefer a nice shuffle feel. Since I just started playing in paper again, I only have 2 decks sleeved, but the sleeves are total opposites when it comes to shuffle feel. I have a modern deck in old KMC Hyper Mattes, and a standard deck in Ultra Pro Eclipses. I absolutely hated the Eclipses at first because of how sticky they were compared to the slick and smooth Hyper Mattes, but I got used to them over time. It started to feel normal and I wasn't really thinking about it...and then I played modern for the first time in weeks and the Hyper Mattes felt like a dream. I forgot how amazing they were!

Anyway, obviously the first priority is good, durable sleeves. Not only do I want them to protect my cards but I also don't want to have to constantly replace them. With that said, once you rule out all the low-quality sleeves, then I would definitely favor shuffle feel over all else.

I would never buy low-quality sleeves for the shuffle feel, so durability is my top concern, but after that I want sleeves that are slick like KMC Hyper Mattes. :)

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If they're cards I pay with then yes, shuffle feel matters. For protecting cards in storage or when sending them to people for trades/sales, naturally I only want to know the sleeve is durable, for play I need that sweet spot between the way too slippery feel of some brands when fresh out of the pack and the stickiness of those early Eclipses

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This is part of the reason I choose Matte Sleeves. No Matte Sleeves just tend to stick together over time and make shuffling annoying. 

Does anyone know how to get rid of this stickiness/griminess? I don't eat food or anything while playing, it just slowly accumulates after months of playing. No visual grime, just the feel.

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22 hours ago, King of Jank said:

This is part of the reason I choose Matte Sleeves. No Matte Sleeves just tend to stick together over time and make shuffling annoying. 

Does anyone know how to get rid of this stickiness/griminess? I don't eat food or anything while playing, it just slowly accumulates after months of playing. No visual grime, just the feel.

Unfortunately not. But, you can buy KMC Hypermatte for REALLY cheap on Amazon. I want to say I paid around $3 per 80pk last time I bought.

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On 7/31/2018 at 7:29 PM, ChuckWagonMTG said:

Unfortunately not. But, you can buy KMC Hypermatte for REALLY cheap on Amazon. I want to say I paid around $3 per 80pk last time I bought.

I prefer Dragon Shield just because they come in packs of 100 (for EDH), but I might look into Hypermatte, anything is better than ultra pro.

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On 7/30/2018 at 6:53 PM, King of Jank said:

This is part of the reason I choose Matte Sleeves. No Matte Sleeves just tend to stick together over time and make shuffling annoying. 

Does anyone know how to get rid of this stickiness/griminess? I don't eat food or anything while playing, it just slowly accumulates after months of playing. No visual grime, just the feel.

Don't know how to get rid of the griminess, maybe a damp towel?

On 7/31/2018 at 5:29 PM, ChuckWagonMTG said:

Unfortunately not. But, you can buy KMC Hypermatte for REALLY cheap on Amazon. I want to say I paid around $3 per 80pk last time I bought.

Is that the new (old) blend of KMC?

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The last time The Professor reviewed KMC Hypermattes he said they were pretty good, though he also likes Ultro Pro Eclipses which I'm less than enthusiastic about. They're durable, but the shuffle feel is absolutely terrible.

Anyway, it looks like KMC is confident about the new (old) formula, they've finally changed their packaging so people can know for sure which batch they are buying, at least if you buy them in the United States. They are also selling them in 100-count packs for Commander players. Here's what they look like now:

Hyper Matte Black - 100ctHyper Matte Red - 100ct

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20 hours ago, Lasraik said:

Don't know how to get rid of the griminess, maybe a damp towel?

Is that the new (old) blend of KMC?

The ones I have are the old-old blend, back when they were still good and before they turned to crap which made them come up with the new formula. So the ones I have a good, but I am on my last couple hundred, so I will be ordering more soon. I have heard the new ones are great, but haven't tried them.

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